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Sir Nicholas Young, chief executive of the British Red Cross, has hit out at the collective refusal of corporate donors to fund charities’ overheads.
In an interview with civilsociety.co.uk after he had been selected as the winner of the 2011 Outstanding Leadership Award at the Charity Awards, Sir Nicholas voiced his frustration at the prevailing attitudes of business leaders who don’t seem to realise that charities need all the same infrastructure as private sector organisations.
He explained that in recent years the British Red Cross had put a lot of effort into building the capacity of Red Cross societies in developing countries.
“There are 186 Red Cross or Red Crescent Societies around the world,” he said, “and a Red Cross society in sub-Saharan Africa has almost nothing compared to what we have here. Yet the scale of disasters and health and social care issues that they face are absolutely enormous.
“The history of big aid agencies like the Red Cross has tended to be that we parachute aid in and hope some of its sticks and increasingly I think we have to put a lot more effort into building sustainable local capacity so they can do much more for themselves.
“We have a number of great partnerships with small African national societies where we’ve been doing this for the last few years and we’re really beginning to see the results now.
“But what is incredibly frustrating is how difficult it is to raise money for that work. I can go to a dozen captains of industry and ask for money for Aids programmes or disaster response or whatever, and I’ll get wonderfully generous support. But if I go to them and say ‘that national society in, say, Liberia really needs the money for a great fundraising director or finance director or computer system’ they’ll look at me as if I’m absolutely mad. They’ll say ‘We can’t possibly fund that, that’s overheads!’. And even when I say ‘Yes but they can’t do anything without those things’, they’ll still say ‘no no sorry, we’ll do the Aids programme, thanks’.”
Sir Nick said he tries to make them think about how their own business would function without a sales director or a finance director, but the corporate chiefs seem to think that’s different. “Of course it’s not different – these societies are businesses, they need to be able to run and manage themselves and then they could look after themselves much more. I find it very frustrating.”
Click here to read Tania Mason's interview with Sir Nicholas Young.
Patrick Manion
Principle Consultant
Sun King Enterprises
18 Jul 2011
Sir Nicholas- if you are approaching a company that has worldwide impact, why not ask them to "lend" you one of their employees to be on the ground to get things started. That person would have a great impact on their organization when they report back the activities. This would also be even greater PR for them and their employees.
John Marshall
CEO
Centrepoint Outreach
8 Jul 2011
There are numerous funding streams that will not support core funding - either running costs or salaries, only development or new projects. That does not help existing successful projects such as ours that have been around for 20 years. It can be very frustrating!
Dawn Varley
Purple Vision
7 Jul 2011
I think Sir Nick is right - in short the organisation couldn't do what it does, or certainly not in the way it does it, without core costs being met. Educating donors on this, whether corporates or good old Dorothy Donor, is crucial.
We have to be honest about the costs we incur, that these are valid, and go forward on that basis. He's being quite brave to stick his neck out on the issue - there is an inherent risk in this that corporates who don't like what he says will take their money elsewhere (not funding core costs though, you understand!).
Paul Edwards
Community development worker
5 Jul 2011
But Catherine, this is an ongoing issue. When the UK government and local government funded projects (those were the days!), it was the same story. They wanted the activity but didn't want to pay the overheads. For 'overheads' read the ongoing charity organisation without which the projects won't happen. The truth is that having your logo on a project is 'sexy' and attracts positive images for your organisation. The necessary but 'unsexy' job of ensuring that there is an organisation there to launch and support projects isn't. What we need is a little more naturity and a little more real philanthropy from both Business and the Government.
Michael Hodgson
Cause4Effect
5 Jul 2011
I'd argue that unrestricted funding in return for gala events is a bit different. In essence you're competing with other corporate sponsorship offers - in many ways selling a product. And that's a valuable part of any fundraising strategy.
What Sir Nicholas is complaining about is companies not understanding that funding infrastructure and 'overheads' is as valuable or more valuable than funding a specific programme.
In the case he gives, he likely doesn't have an appealing 'product' to sell alongside.
The companies will happily fund the exciting things – the aids programme, but not the infrastructure to make sure the programme works.
He’s likely got the deal almost sealed, and has been asked ‘what would £xx do’. In this kind of case, I’d agree, the infrastructure is rarely the one that companies want to fund – even if the overall outcomes might be bigger.
Hypothetically Catherine, let’s say that another person doing your job alongside you could enable your organisation to raise double the amount you raise for them. How many people would choose to fund that salary over, for example, a series of residential courses?
Potentially, I think he's missed a trick. The possibility he has is to offer certain staff the opportunity to see the difference this 'overhead' is making on the ground, and I can think of several companies that would love an extra contact in an emerging market. [The Red Cross may well have qualms about dealing with some of them, however, as is their right.]
I think that the 'hitting out' is simply a necessary aspect of illustrating the fact that the sector needs to combat the aversion to 'overhead' that exists. We all need to keep explaining that ‘overhead’ is what makes the rest of the money create any impact.
Sir Nicholas is probably also frustrated that a corporation who can see the need for their own infrastructure can't see a need for a charity to have an infrastructure. Where it might be expected that the 'man on the street' dislikes overheads, having little understanding of business or the practicalities of operating an organisation, one might expect that if anyone appreciated the need for infrastructure, it would be corporate entities.
Catherine Clark
Head of Communications, Marketing & Development
Royal School of Church Music
5 Jul 2011
Since when do charities 'hit out' at potential donors? Since when do corporations, or indeed trusts and individuals, 'owe' us anything? I've had plenty of unrestricted funding from businesses over the years, usually in return for sponsorship gifts to gala events. Corporations are responsible to their shareholders, not the the Red Cross or the Royal School of Church Music. If they have a good corporate culture, they might be philanthropic. If they get a public(ity) benefit from philanthropy - or need some good PR for bad behaviour -- they are likely to give. If they have corporate funding guidelines that a charity fits, they might give to that charity... But in no case do they have to!
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Geoff Baker
Executive Director
AID-4-AFRICA
28 Oct 2011
This is complete rubbish from Sir Nicholas. It's time to "borrow" some corporate staff to help promote efficiency and avoidance of duplication of charitable services. There "are" specific "foundations & trusts" around the world who "will" help support core costings, you have to go out and look for them. Also - what exactly are "core-costings?"
It's time Sir Nicholas lived in the real world and came out of his Red Cross ivory towers!
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