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Institute drops Astarita as keynote speaker at payroll giving conference

Mark Astarita, chair of the Institute of Fundraising
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Fundraising | Tania Mason | 24 Jun 2011

The Institute of Fundraising has dumped its own chair, Mark Astarita, as keynote speaker at its Payroll Giving conference at the Home Office next week after he publicly derided the existing delivery of the fundraising technique in a media interview.

Astarita, the British Red Cross fundraising director who was appointed chair of the Institute just six weeks ago, was quoted as saying that payroll giving “hasn’t worked” and that “the only people who really love it are those who make loads of money from managing the transactions”.

“If government and others bleat on about payroll giving over the next few weeks, I'll scream,” he added.

Astarita was due to deliver the opening plenary at the Institute’s Payroll Giving Conference on Monday, to be hosted by the Home Office in Marsham Street, central London.  He was to speak just before Justine Greening MP, the Economic Secretary to the Treasury.

In recent weeks the government has thrown its weight behind payroll giving, expressing support for it in the Giving White Paper and announcing that it plans to launch a year-long national campaign in the autumn to promote the donation method to employers.

This morning the Institute confirmed to civilsociety.co.uk that Astarita had been removed from the programme and will be replaced by Institute trustee Tanya Steele, fundraising director at Save the Children.  

An Institute spokeswoman said: “Given Mark Astarita’s recently-publicised views on payroll giving the Institute felt that it would be more conducive to the conference’s success if someone who has not been associated with such strong positions were to speak.”

Astarita said that the conference host, the Home Office, had nothing to do with the decision. “We just decided we didn’t want to wind people up, but it certainly wasn’t the government’s decision,” he said.

A 'great fan of payroll giving'

He said the comments attributed to him earlier in the week did not tell the full story about his views on payroll giving. “I’m a great fan of payroll giving,” he said. “The British Red Cross pretty much invented payroll giving, we raised what in today’s money would be about £2bn from the penny-a-week fund which was the forerunner to payroll giving. I chaired the second-biggest payroll giving consortium in the UK. I think payroll giving is a fantastic model, and I would have been saying all those things to the conference.”

The decision was made to put Steele forward as keynote speaker because the Institute wanted to “calm things down”, Astarita said. “People get very excited and there are an awful lot of vested interests. But behind the scenes we need to work at getting some common sense behind payroll giving. It needs reform and reform is what we’re asking for.”

He said Tanya Steele would be delivering a similar speech to the one he had prepared, “only far more eloquently and without the rough edges. But she and I think exactly the same about payroll giving.”

“The Institute's position is very clear, we love it to bits but it ain’t going to work as it is at the moment. And I don’t think you’ll find many directors of fundraising that will say much different.”

The Red Cross has just been announced as one of the launch partners for a new online payroll giving service. Big Change, set up by company CCWorks, enables charities to set up their own payroll giving web pages in order to promote and process payroll giving via their corporate partners.

Nigel Edward-few
CEO
27 Jun 2011

The IOF seems to be having a bad year to say the least - Paul Amadi quits, Amanda McLean comes, scores an own goal with her pretentious article and then is gone and now another own goal; Astarita appointed as new Chair, makes a controversial statement and then is publically stopped from speaking at an IOF event. I would suggest that his position might now be considered untenable. Is he now reconsidering his position perhaps?

If I were Chair, I would have cleared or at the very least gathered opinion on my intended comments with my board and the CEO. To make such an apparently contentious statement just before a conference at which you are due to speak anf think that you will get away with it, seems to me to be either incredibly naive or just plain silly!

Stolen
27 Jun 2011
Response to [nigel edward-few]

Untenable but tradition is that chairs either rule or not.

Bad tradition coming from an aristocratic heritage and not a meritocratic culture.

Nigel Edward-few
ceo
28 Jun 2011
Response to [Stolen]

And your point is?

Mark Astarita
Director of Fundraising
British Red Cross
25 Jun 2011

So sorry to the Civil Service Benevolent Fund for attempting to steal their thunder. So I have learnt something please tell the world. Please do put you story up on SOFFI so we can all learn more about our wonderful uk fundraising story. I worry that our fundraising heritage is being lost with the passing of generations.

My point of course was that BRCS has been doing it for ages. The penny-a-week fund was a scheme created with the co-operation of the TUC and Employers’ Organisation to collect 1d a week from workers, which was deducted from their wages. The fund raised £17,663,225 (£1.79 billion today) – all in pennies. Its success was credited to the idea of collecting a small amount of money from a large number of people. The amount did not make a significant difference to the donor’s weekly budget but the pennies added up to raise more than one third of the entire Duke of Gloucester’s Appeal. So great you were first or second doubt anyone though has done it bigger. If we can do £1.79bn that then why can't we not do better than £107m now.

As for Barnardo's I knew they has been at it for ages in fact I can proudly say I joined their scheme at the tender age of 18 (that is late 20th century not pre war) on the factory floor and gave 15p a week or something like that for 10 years. Funny thing is they never did thank me, never sent me a letter, only once upgraded me in the works canteen and I stopped giving when I moved jobs. Listen guys payroll giving could be so much better we all know that so let's try to find out how. Have a great conference.

Rarry Revan
Ranter
Rantingrules
24 Jun 2011

Someone with strong views? Stating the bleedin obvious there, but bearing in mind that:

a) He is soon to be the Chair of the IoF he will be perceived to be seen as speaking for the sector

b) The Institute has been leading on Payroll Giving for decades - so if it is crap who should be blamed?

and C) The Institute were lined up to get money to push SME grants (which they had years ago but failed to spend it).

- it seems to me that this is a massive home goal of sector wide propostions.

Now lets watch the rest of the sector either bow down to his ego or distance them from his huge blunder.

Rarry

Jo Ayley
Fundraising Development & Accounts Manager
The Civil Service Benevolent Fund
24 Jun 2011

Mark Astarita should really get his facts straight before he makes comments to the media. The Civil Service Benevolent Fund has been involved in post tax Payroll Giving since 1932, possibly before he was a twinkle in the eye of his parents and long before the British Red Cross caught up. Even before that Barnardos have benefitted from gifts deducted from pay since the late 1800's so his claim that the British Red Cross 'invented Payroll Giving' is grossly inaccurate, it also provides some insight into this gentleman who is going to be the next Chair of the Institute of Fundraising. Next time Mark - make sure you know what you are talking about!

Stewart
24 Jun 2011

I think this is a blatant cop-out by the IoF. Just because someone has a strong view on something, particularly with his experience, they're more interested in someone less opinionated!? Come on IoF, it's people like Astarita that cause debate and instigate reform. Where's your backbone?

Ed
24 Jun 2011

Dumped for telling the truth.

The only reason the government has jumped on the payroll giving band wagon is because it's uncontroversial with the public, unlike face to face or direct mail for example.

It's a shame that, unlike face to face or direct mail for example, payroll giving and has a poor track record of raising income and is woefully inefficient.

2:1 to the payroll giving industry.

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